Policy Violation Warning - Variation related

Hi all, I’m new here, just stumbled on the forum while desperately searching for an answer to my problem. Loving the look of the forum, it’s cheered me up a little after a few days of anxiety.

Anyway, I was hoping someone could help me.

I’ve had a policy violation warning. Account is not deactivated but I’m a full time seller and I rely on the income entirely (without it I’ll loose my house), so I’m terrified it’ll escalate.

The original email had the reason: Invalid Variation Type: Duplicate Child Variation

There were no duplicates and after I attempted to explain this I was sent a generic denial email.

I’ve since tried about 4 plan of action emails to remove the violation (and also work out what I did wrong) but I keep getting refused.

There were 2 variation fields. Size and Style.

In SIze I had various fishing hook sizes 6, 4, 2, 1, 1/0, 2/0, 3/0, 4/0, 5/0, 6/0
All the ASINS listed in the original email were 6, 4 ,2 and 1
I thought the problem was they they has confused 6 with 6/0, 4 with 4/0 etc
So I deleted these and submitted a POA “admitting” I’d duplicated variations even though I hadn’t

This was refused.

Then I came to the conclusion that “Style” was the issue. This was the only thing actually wrong with the listing as far as I could tell. I was using Style to represent rhe pack size (Pack of 10 hooks, Pack of 25 hooks, Pack of 50 hooks)
So I deleted the parent and remade the listing but used “unit count” as the variation instead.
POA still denied.

My latest POA looked like this:

Blockquote

Hello,

Thanks for the reply. Please see further info:

– The root cause(s) of the policy violation.

I have carefully checked the ASIN Creation Policy and have looked at the product in detail and have found the following:

  • I incorrectly used the “Style” variation to indicate the pack size
  • I listed manufacturer-created pack sizes, and I should have used “Unit Count” (PPU count) instead of “Style” for the variation type
  • I created ASINS with size variations with similar values to existing variations, thereby creating duplicate variations.
  • Not enough care was taken to ensure the correct variation types were used
  • Not enough care was taken to ensure that all variations were unique, distinct and clear

– The actions you have taken to resolve the policy violation.

  • I have deleted the parent ASIN and created a new one (B0CMD3TWMF) with the correct variation types, “Size” and “Unit count” (PPU count)
  • I have checked the remaining variations to ensure that they are all unique and added them to the new parent SKU
  • I have checked that all unit counts match a manufacturer-created pack size.
  • I have updated the child variation values on the remaining unique ASINs by adding the size in mm. This is to ensure that it is clear to customers which variation they are buying and to avoid confusion about the size.

– The steps you have taken to prevent this violation in the future.

  • I have read and understood fully the ASIN creation policy, paying particular attention to the Duplicate ASIN Creation Policy section.

  • When creating ASINs in future I will ensure that the correct variation type is used

  • When creating ASINs in future I will ensure that there are no duplicate variations

  • I will conduct a full review of all ASINS to ensure that variation types are all appropriate and correct.

  • I will conduct a full review of all ASINS to ensure that there are no duplicate variations

  • If I find any ASINS with incorrect variation types or duplicate variations I will correct them.

  • I will regularly re-read policies and re-read them immediately before creating any new ASINS to ensure that my knowledge is current.

  • I have implemented policies so no other staff can create ASINS. I am the only person now who will create ASINs.

  • I will use a spreadsheet to check that all values are unique before ASIN creation.

  • Additionally, I will ask another staff member to manually check that all values are unique before ASIN creation.

  • In summary, our ASIN creation policy is now:

    • Re-read the ASIN creation policy to ensure knowledge is up to date.
    • Choose appropriate variation types
    • Create and check variations in a spreadsheet
    • Ask another member of staff to double-check the work
    • Upload the file or create the ASINs myself personally

I have identified why and how the violation occurred, resolved it and put measures in place to prevent it from happening again. Please remove the violation warning on my account.

Best regards,
Dave

If anyone can offer any help at all it would be really appreciated. Many of my most important listings are very similar and rely heavily on variations so I’m very keen to work out what I’ve done wrong and correct it to prevent any further violations. .

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Hello @DaveS,

thank you for joining our forum. I am sorry to hear that you are experiencing issues with a policy violation regarding variations of your products alleging “Invalid Variation Type: Duplicate Child Variation”.

Please note that getting a random policy violation related to product variations is quite common and they are frequently issued incorrectly due to being auto-generated by bots.

You have nothing to worry about as long as you are confident that you haven’t done anything wrong. The policy violation defect will disappear from your metrics on its own after 180 days past receipt.

The general rule for innocent policy violation warnings like this is not to poke the sleeping bear. The violation was generated automatically. It won’t cause you any issues and will disappear. If you keep e-mailing Amazon and appealing, not only they won’t lift the violation, but you may trigger someone working at Amazon tired from having to address your vigorous appeal attempts to actually take some negative actions against you (this is usually the case).

Anyway, I believe that your Plan of Action is good. However, I would have to see the original ASIN which triggered the policy violation along with its original variations to better advise.

Therefore, my advice is that you just let it be and stop appealing.

Also, feel free to post here and ask for help whenever you encounter any other Amazon-related issues, as here you will receive quick and detailed answers.

Thanks Kika! You’ve put my mind at rest a little, although I’m a natural worrier about such things.

The ASIN was https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0BNYFKVVM

But I’ve deleted the listing this morning entirely so it might not be available for long

Original Variations were:

Size: 6, 4, 2, 1, 1/0, 2/0, 3/0, 4/0, 5/0, 6/0
Style: Pack of 10 hooks, Pack of 25 hooks, Pack of 50 hooks

I have since changed the sizes names and changed “style” to unit count.

Also, I’m not sure if these 2 points are relevant or not but…

1- listing was created Dec 2022 and has been fine doing FBM, this issue arose around a week after I created new SKUs to make an FBA variation. and sent stock to Amazon.
ie:

  • I took SKU123 which was FBM
  • I did “add another contition” to make a new SKU
  • Made the new SKU FBA and called it SKU123#FBA
  • Sent stock in.

But it wasn’t for the variations that were listed in the original policy warning email

2nd thing to note. A couple of days before the warning the some of the ASINS in the listing had a “search suppressed” warning. I checked in my account and the images were missing so I re-added them. These ASINs were some of the ones that were detailed in the original email
A couple of days later the violation email came.

Yesterday and this morning I had more search suppressed warnings for the same reason but for ASINS that weren’t in the original violation email.

I have now deleted the entire listing and all ASINS because I’m worried that it will lead to a second violation.

The listing was important to me but I’d rather loose this one than the entire account.

I’m not sure what to do about similar listings with similar variation setups I have. I’m tempted to delete them too but they are such important listings

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No need to delete the listing. Try to label the variations as accurately as possible to avoid any future automated warnings.

I would call the sizes by their mm dimensions. Such as replacing “Size 6/0” with “55mmx17mm”.

I agree that Unit Count is the most appropriate for pack quantity.

Yes, issues like this are usually triggered by sudden changes - this is when your listing gets re-scanned by Amazon’s bots.

No need to worry. Just let the violation to disappear and alter the sizing and variation types ensuring they are as accurate as possible.

Search suppressed ASINs are a common issue for everyone, new impacted listings keep popping up daily. It is because Amazon keeps strictening their standards and introducing new required listing attributes, which you need to insert in order to fix the listings.

Usually, you will be able to see what needs to be done in order to fix the ASINs.

Hi Kika,

Thanks so much for your help. I’m going to leave the listing deleted for now as I’m too worried that it’ll trigger more violations. I can live without the listing but I can’t live without my account. I might add it back in 180 days when the violation is gone.

The hook sizing is really important as it’s how people buy fishing hooks. It would loose lots of sales if sold in mm. People search for 4/0 baitholder hooks for instance. mm woudn’t make sense to most buyers/. But thanks for the recommendation anyway.

I have other listings with very similar variation set ups. (size and style)
Do you think I should go and change them now to size and count? Or just leave them as there are no current violations on those listings?

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Don’t worry about it @DaveS at all, trust me. Feel free to reactivate the listing. This is not a serious policy violation. Most seller’s Account Health Dashboards look like this (lol):

Work on improving the variation types and descriptive names to prevent this from happening again.

Also, feel free to invite any Amazon Seller friends to join this forum as well!

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Thanks Kika, I might manage some sleep tonight then!

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